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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2012.10.10 15:41:00 -
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I have a stable of more than 30 characters, 11 accounts subbed well into the future and hundreds of PLEX in my Jita hanger of which some are destined for use with in game services (character transfers), some are for my subs and a large portion are for market speculation. I think that puts me in all four of your brackets.
I certainly do have faith in CCP and in the long term future of this game. I'm willing to invest my internet spaceship money in that future and I am betting (literally) on CCP not screwing with the PLEX sandbox.
The problem is, I think the rising PLEX price has more to do with the people that are unwilling to invest their real world money in that future. |

Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2012.10.10 16:05:00 -
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Blueprint Seller wrote:subscribe by recurring 6+ month regular repeating subscription I previously did this. It was one of the economies I had to make when I went into semi-retirement (in real life) as I was obviously wealthy enough in game for EVE subs to be entirely optional. Not being quite as wealthy in real life, I chose to opt out of them from now on. To be fair, I think I've shown more support for CCP than most players and I've done more to publicise their game than most too. I doubt CCP begrudge me playing "for free" until they switch the servers off. |

Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2012.10.10 16:21:00 -
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Blueprint Seller wrote:I think the current PLEX market better serves the short term investor. It serves the long term investor if they are exiting their position, but I get your point.
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2012.10.10 16:26:00 -
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Bloodpetal wrote: Well, I'm not sure if it's a shortage of supply really.
...many words...
So, I'm not sure there is a supply disruption issue as much as a supply withheld issue.
Either way, there is a shortage of supply. The cause, while relevant in a broader sense, doesn't change the effect.
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2012.10.10 16:54:00 -
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Bloodpetal wrote:Blueprint Seller wrote:Bloodpetal wrote:PLEX doesn't generate interest? Well, if you had 100 PLEX sitting in your hangar 2 months ago, you'd have made 200m per PLEX or about 20B ISK by now. Or you could have purchased them now, rather than 2 months ago. The PLEX price is the same, the isk value is the same, but you've had your real world money for 2 months longer (where it does generate interest). A change in exchange rate isn't quite the same as earning interest. Some people could have bought 100 PLEX with in game money, which doesn't generate interest outside of game anyways and justified it as a long term investment. To do some quick math to work on paralleling In Game Profit Generation VS Real Life Interest Rates you're trying to draw... Hypothetical 2 Months Ago 100 PLEX = $1,700 = 45B Plex Today 100 PLEX = $1,700 = 66B Plex Delta is 21B ISK = $540 in equivalent ISK "profit". (Yes, this accounts for the PLEX fluctuation as well) So you'd have made about 30% on your investment, which if you wanted to say "I was going to put that into EVE anyways", is $540 in PLEX you don't have to buy to use in EVE gameplay. Which is probably better than most investments in real life.  So, I don't think that a real life interest rate on your money has anything to do with the discussion. This is about investing into CCP's game as a client, as an expense, not as something you expect an ROI on such as a stock (above and beyond what you get in game from doing so, that is). I think you are missing BS's point.
He is talking purely from a real-life finance point of view. His philosophy would be to gain the greatest benefit from limited real life funds. Therefore buying PLEX early is counterproductive given it's fixed price and the oppertunity costs involved with an advanced purchase that yields no benefit.
Trading PLEX in-game is an entirely seperate issue and one that, as BS pointed out, has comparitively little value in supporting the real world entity that is CCP. |

Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2012.10.10 17:24:00 -
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Bloodpetal wrote:The only thing I can say is that the rise in in game PLEX value does by extension help CCP sales because more people are willing to purchase PLEX when their value is higher I'll refer the honourable gentleman to a previous statement:
Bad Bobby wrote:If a person is looking to buy 1b isk using PLEX, then which of the following is better for CCP?
A) That person buying 3 PLEX at -ú16.99 each and selling them for 333m each to other players.
B) That person buying 2 PLEX at -ú16.99 each and selling them for 500m each to other players.
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2012.10.10 17:28:00 -
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It is however, as you say, impossible to tell from our position if CCP are selling more or less PLEX now as opposed to when the prices were lower. |
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